Outside Is The World; It's There. Pop

I Was At Rutgers University, And That Was A Center For Fluxus In A Way. But It Wasn't What I Was Interested In. All Of It Had An Impact - As Did Happenings - Because I Could See That Art Was Changing From Expressionism, Which I Was Doing At The Time, Or Thought I Was Doing. But It Wasn't The Direction I Really Wanted To Go.

Pop Art Is Industrial Painting. I Think The Meaning Of My Work Is That It Is Industrial, It's What All The World Will Soon Become. Europe Will Be The Same Way, Soon, It Won't Be American; It Will Be Universal.

Painting Stems From A Sense Of Organisation, The Sensed Positions Of Contrasts. Not That It Is About This.

A Number Of Artists Have Done Things With Mickey Mouse - Including Claes Oldenburg And Andy Warhol. He's Such An American Symbol, And Such An Anti-art Symbol.

Yes, You Know Sometimes, We Started Out Thinking Out How Strange Our Painting Was Next To Normal Painting, Which Was Anything Expressionist. You Forget That This Has Been Thirty Five Years Now And People Don't Look At It As If It Were Some Kind Of Oddity.