We Had A Lot Of Gridlock On

The Real Story In Housing Will Be A Recovery In The Economy That Will Drive A Recovery In Housing, When People Are Working, When There Are More Jobs, More Households Forming And People Go Back To Buying Cars, They're Going To Want Their Apartments And Homes. And That's When You'll Start To See A Recovery In Home Prices.

At Travelers, We Were Much More Opportunistic. It Was Very Successful, But It Wasn't An Integrated Financial Services Company. We Had A Property Casualty Company, A Life Company, A Brokerage Company. We Were A Financial Conglomerate. It Wasn't A Unified, Coordinated Strategy Of Any Sort. When It Merged With Citi, That Became A Big Issue; Citi, At That Time, Wasn't Yet A Fully Integrated, Coordinated Company.

We've Seen The Volatility At Dollar-yen, U.s. Treasurys, Jgbs (japanese Government Bonds), German Bunds.

The Toughest Are People Mistakes, When You Put The Wrong Person In A Job. Sometimes You're Too Slow To Move Them Out. Or Not Getting The Right People Involved To Solve A Problem, Or Doing Something Out Of Anger; You Learn, Just Don't Do That. But I'd Have To Say The Whale Was One Of Them, And I Would Also Have To Put Bear Stearns And Washington Mutual On The List At This Point.

You Would Expect To See That First In High-yield [debt], But It Was In The Most Liquid Thing In The World. So That, I Think - It's A Little Bit Of A Warning That We've Got To Be Prepared And Just Be Careful.